tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post5775187968254370295..comments2024-03-28T04:27:57.522-07:00Comments on The Turner Report: Cynthia Davis: it's church time, Bring your bible and guns!Randyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05760019501046060231noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-50540926918043829852010-01-21T15:34:14.144-08:002010-01-21T15:34:14.144-08:00how do you people find time to read blogs with all...how do you people find time to read blogs with all this bible study?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-67822055805856426612009-12-05T07:16:35.143-08:002009-12-05T07:16:35.143-08:00Anonymous at 5:50 PM: WRT turn the other cheek I s...Anonymous at 5:50 PM: WRT turn the other cheek I still note that none of those examples include serious and/or permanent physical harm; there's a significant difference <i>in kind</i> between "wrongs you" and "severely injures you".<br /><br />And you totally ignore what doesn't support your case; besides the ambiguous Matthew 10:34, "Think not that I am come to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-25374983448604024712009-12-04T20:29:06.688-08:002009-12-04T20:29:06.688-08:00My comments were not about government regulation a...<i> My comments were not about government regulation at all, just about how disgusting it is to think of people being so intent of being able to take their guns to church.</i><br><br>Your position is understandable; I suspect that Matthew J. Murray, had he survived, would have desired that no armed civilians been present at the New Life Church of Colorado Springs, Colorado. It is likely that he Dimensiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04561841119481241124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-22789553370600504692009-12-04T17:50:00.545-08:002009-12-04T17:50:00.545-08:00Ok, Dimensio, first of all, I never said anything ...Ok, Dimensio, first of all, I never said anything about government deciding one way or the other what rights churches have. My comments were not about government regulation at all, just about how disgusting it is to think of people being so intent of being able to take their guns to church. Something in my Christian soul is sickened by the image of people just itching to bring their .45 to churchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-6646548576596722692009-12-04T16:59:03.212-08:002009-12-04T16:59:03.212-08:00Yes, when Jesus comes back I'm sure he'll ...<i>Yes, when Jesus comes back I'm sure he'll feel right at home at the churches where all the congragants are packing heat. Because that follows his teaching exactly. He was all about keeping a dangerous weapon on himself; he wasn't a pacifist at all. You supporters of this are fools and you will live as fools and die as fools. Turn the other cheek Jesus said. He didn't direct youDimensiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04561841119481241124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-52632879637246245762009-12-04T13:57:12.097-08:002009-12-04T13:57:12.097-08:00When you're the Son 'o God and can presuma...When you're the Son 'o God and can presumably kill with a touch (the reverse of raising the dead with a touch), the moral calculus of self-defense is a bit different.<br /><br />And wasn't "turn the other cheek" with regards to insults to one's pride? He didn't say "if someone stabs you on one side...."<br /><br />And what about his charge to his disciplesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-7235568014006571992009-12-04T12:11:36.045-08:002009-12-04T12:11:36.045-08:00Yes, when Jesus comes back I'm sure he'll ...Yes, when Jesus comes back I'm sure he'll feel right at home at the churches where all the congragants are packing heat. Because that follows his teaching exactly. He was all about keeping a dangerous weapon on himself; he wasn't a pacifist at all. You supporters of this are fools and you will live as fools and die as fools. Turn the other cheek Jesus said. He didn't direct you toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-78439229196942150022009-12-03T20:10:57.097-08:002009-12-03T20:10:57.097-08:00It is hard to argue with someone who thinks the so...<i>It is hard to argue with someone who thinks the solution to everything is to put more guns everywhere.</i><br><br>Who has advocated such a solution? Additionally, do you believe it appropriate for a state government to define the firearms possession policy of churches within the state, even though the management of other private establishments are permitted to establish their own policies Dimensiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04561841119481241124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-14576810685499747062009-12-03T10:40:58.305-08:002009-12-03T10:40:58.305-08:00... I have no problem with ... a church designatin...<i>... I have no problem with ... a church designating someone trustworthy for that position on a volunteer basis if it cannot afford to pay for one....</i><br /><br />Which was exactly the situation in Colorado.<br /><br />Too bad that's illegal in Missouri; you said this is a "need that no one else knew existed (except the bill's four co-sponsors...)".<br /><br />So which is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-27941739961689195522009-12-03T05:34:24.912-08:002009-12-03T05:34:24.912-08:00It is hard to argue with someone who thinks the so...It is hard to argue with someone who thinks the solution to everything is to put more guns everywhere. Sadly, it appears that in this day and age, there is a need for armed, trained security guards at churches, and I have no problem with that, or even with a church designating someone trustworthy for that position on a volunteer basis if it cannot afford to pay for one, but the idea of Randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05760019501046060231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-39107973185883362312009-12-03T05:18:55.499-08:002009-12-03T05:18:55.499-08:00I am impressed by your continued willingness to li...I am impressed by your continued willingness to lie about self-defense, that "no one" but a few legislators in favor of any given bill see the need for it. Not only is that not your or the government's decision to make, it's trivially falsified.<br /><br />I cannot believe that you are totally ignorant about the animus many hold towards religion in this country or the many Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com