tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post8627892714731923437..comments2024-03-29T08:35:26.225-07:00Comments on The Turner Report: Full text of Joplin School Board's decision to end my teaching careerRandyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05760019501046060231noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-76693193333157820232013-06-15T07:42:12.399-07:002013-06-15T07:42:12.399-07:005:52, you make it pretty clear who is actually &qu...5:52, you make it pretty clear who is actually "indoctrinated" - but at least you know how to fall back on inappropriate language when actual debating skills fail you...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-29748163462378985382013-06-15T07:41:49.425-07:002013-06-15T07:41:49.425-07:005:52, you make it pretty clear who is actually &qu...5:52, you make it pretty clear who is actually "indoctrinated" - but at least you know how to fall back on inappropriate language when actual debating skills fail you...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-42615572104574196242013-06-10T06:40:52.911-07:002013-06-10T06:40:52.911-07:00I am going to insist on a tape recording of any me...I am going to insist on a tape recording of any meeting I'm in, period.<br /><br />Apparently, the tornado left a few admins there with a twisted view of due process.<br /><br />And was it "courteous" to tell him not to record the meeting? That vague crap ought to cut both ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-9786416951937800342013-06-10T05:52:01.965-07:002013-06-10T05:52:01.965-07:00It's funny you can tell who all the teachers a...It's funny you can tell who all the teachers are on this comment section. There's certain criteria to follow for a reason. You don't follow it... you get shitcanned like Turner. Let this be a lesson to the rest of you liberal indoctrinators!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-79515095891413800412013-06-09T12:28:01.746-07:002013-06-09T12:28:01.746-07:00I expect the board and admin believe that everythi...I expect the board and admin believe that everything will be forgotten by August, and then they'll spin some stories about misperceptions of their actions and choices by well meaning, but misguided, teachers and administrators. <br /><br />It won't work, but they can try. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-14881435447375524782013-06-09T11:24:40.509-07:002013-06-09T11:24:40.509-07:00Joplin School Board is equal to a very bad night a...Joplin School Board is equal to a very bad night at a sushi restaurant where you see the cook pull the fish out of a portable cooler. It stinks and will make you sick....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-77421709409394375282013-06-08T12:38:17.535-07:002013-06-08T12:38:17.535-07:00I've lost all faith in the Joplin School Distr...I've lost all faith in the Joplin School District and the people who run it, upper administrators and school board members alike. Perhaps there should be a vote of confidence among the teachers and staff--all 100 that are left. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-5457553163492113132013-06-08T12:37:30.637-07:002013-06-08T12:37:30.637-07:008:07 nails it. School boards and administrators a...8:07 nails it. School boards and administrators are so hellbent on receiving their precious federal funding via NCLB that they will regulate an educator like a Wal-Mart associate. Of course they will eliminate the 20+ year veteran and hire the docile Education major fresh out of college for a mere 25k starting. <br /><br />Randy, research into homeschooling and bring something new to the tableAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-71584234904896955602013-06-08T11:46:17.309-07:002013-06-08T11:46:17.309-07:00Two words: petition audit. Two words: petition audit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-74547338049729244742013-06-08T11:30:21.276-07:002013-06-08T11:30:21.276-07:00"Insubordination" is whatever an unaccou..."Insubordination" is whatever an unaccountable administrator says it is.<br /><br />It's a catch-all term which means actually nothing at all. Anybody can be "insubordinate" for the most trivial of matters. Principals can and do make up anything because they know the districts will back them up.<br /><br />Ethically, legally, and morally speaking, you don't destroy OTE adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09259422705314063194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-65043361857281950072013-06-08T11:00:52.658-07:002013-06-08T11:00:52.658-07:00Factoids,
I, for one, most certainly hope that Mr...Factoids,<br /><br />I, for one, most certainly hope that Mr. Turner does promote his own ideas, in the form of the truth, now that he is free from the district. I hope that he uses his best writing style, the documentary, so that the truth, which he will be able to back up with facts, data, and documentation, will show just how corrupt this district has become. I sincerely hope that is just whatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-68168125520680685772013-06-08T10:12:14.527-07:002013-06-08T10:12:14.527-07:00Too bad you didn't know that administrative he...Too bad you didn't know that administrative hearings are sham tribunals. That's why most teachers take "settlements," or severance packages, but that ends their careers anyway since they have to disclose those on job applications. Anonymous 7:58 is telling the truth: You have NO job protections at all; in fact, you have fewer protections than at-will employees in the private OTE adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09259422705314063194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-10889261017339961822013-06-08T09:25:24.744-07:002013-06-08T09:25:24.744-07:00Insubordination is always grounds for termination....Insubordination is always grounds for termination.Factoidshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10991734244072802863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-19843595403294366992013-06-08T09:22:41.678-07:002013-06-08T09:22:41.678-07:00There are important reasons that school districts ...There are important reasons that school districts must ensure teachers use approved curriculum. The districts could be sued by parents or groups who feel the material serves little pedagogical purpose or that it doesn't meet state requirements for appropriate educational instruction. Furthermore, the district has a legal right to ownership of intellectual ideas or images that should not be Factoidshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10991734244072802863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-27338364097317751272013-06-08T08:28:15.176-07:002013-06-08T08:28:15.176-07:00What a sad commentary on our society, that common ...What a sad commentary on our society, that common sense is absent in both our Board of Education and R-8 Adminstration, as both know Mr. Turner is an educator that has proven to be exceptional in engaging students to think for themselves, and write about their mentor in the newspaper and this blog in his defense. The fact that Mr. Turner had inadvertently posted a link to his book on a blog thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-364381097484418102013-06-08T06:43:25.042-07:002013-06-08T06:43:25.042-07:00I personally know a member of the school board, an...I personally know a member of the school board, and she is indeed dumber than a box of rocks. But she means well and loves the kids, and she attends all of their school events. Even so, every person on that board needs to be voted out.Andreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-23152256301334227802013-06-08T05:23:39.389-07:002013-06-08T05:23:39.389-07:00It seems to me that Mr. Turner actually created a ...It seems to me that Mr. Turner actually created a curriculum and environment that encouraged his students to think independently, a notion that is highly frowned upon in today's educational paradigm of rote memorization and standardized testing. Turner is the savior of education, not the villain. Bill Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05664302790941526437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-18388227488446909602013-06-07T21:52:54.347-07:002013-06-07T21:52:54.347-07:00Younger, newer teachers will match the German furn...Younger, newer teachers will match the German furniture and the drapes better. Look better for the media rush when the new buildings open. They better import some teachers too. We're running out around here. <br /><br />Obviously, if they can do to Turner what they did, no one is safe. There is no target too big now that their power is absolute. Not even the appearance of perjury is too much Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-86096645791502404772013-06-07T21:47:48.073-07:002013-06-07T21:47:48.073-07:00Once again the MODOT gang and the Rubber Stamp Clu...Once again the MODOT gang and the Rubber Stamp Club have reaffirmed their alliance at the expense of staff. I bet this is one proud moment for them. The only way it will stop is when parents do more than talk on Facebook. It's in your hands now. Do something. Talk is cheap. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-45195284407658688892013-06-07T20:24:29.079-07:002013-06-07T20:24:29.079-07:00This is a very disappointing, if not unexpected, r...This is a very disappointing, if not unexpected, result, and you have my fullest sympathy. Institutions like schools have never entirely accepted or understood the power and reach of new media, and schools in particular have a hard time with the idea of teachers as complex adults rather than monkish ascetics.<br /><br />Your case confirms, I'm afraid, the concerns about the Missouri law on Jonathan Dresnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356112719229675996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-65088191925987057462013-06-07T20:19:06.897-07:002013-06-07T20:19:06.897-07:00I want to thank the Board of No Education. I start...I want to thank the Board of No Education. I started and ended my career at Joplin. After five years i had enough and left. Now I don't feel guilty at all. I will never teach again, even though I loved the kids, but I can't stand the crap. Like a lot of other people, I've had to weigh the effect of the job on my whole life and reevaluate. It isn't worth the stress for the pay Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-78923767081889888642013-06-07T20:09:06.377-07:002013-06-07T20:09:06.377-07:00How many jobs now has Mr. turner been terminated f...How many jobs now has Mr. turner been terminated from?<br /><br />Each time, he either writes a book or an extensive blog post explaining how it was not his fault or wrong doing. I'm not a reporter, but if I were, I would like ask one question, have you, Mr. Turner, ever done wrong?<br /><br />It seems there are three common factors in each of his explanations, bad decision making, Mr. TurnerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-80641078540139213192013-06-07T20:07:17.164-07:002013-06-07T20:07:17.164-07:00Message to teachers:
Take no risks at all. Don'...Message to teachers:<br />Take no risks at all. Don't be creative in your lesson plans. Don't get close to the kids. Be quiet. Then leave as fast as you can. You'll get accused of something bad and get fired. It's not worth it now. <br /><br />The message came through loud and clear. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-22406413821393860142013-06-07T20:04:40.490-07:002013-06-07T20:04:40.490-07:00Whatever you do don't start the year crying in...Whatever you do don't start the year crying in front of us. We're not going to stand for it. Don't pretend to care. Just leave us alone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-50755473566507038212013-06-07T19:58:41.710-07:002013-06-07T19:58:41.710-07:00When I first started teaching over 30 years ago, a...When I first started teaching over 30 years ago, a veteran teacher told me there is no job security in this business because if they really want to get rid of you, they can and will do so by accusing you of violating board policy. Most of us violate one board policy or another without even realizing it. Late to school? That's a violation of board policy. Forget to clip on that ID badge? You&#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com