tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post986414356829419120..comments2024-03-28T02:38:10.854-07:00Comments on The Turner Report: Initial study of baseball impact on Joplin deeply flawedRandyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05760019501046060231noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-80305440033233729802015-10-15T20:47:09.248-07:002015-10-15T20:47:09.248-07:00The Chamber got a kick back just like they do with...The Chamber got a kick back just like they do with most shady dealings. Crossland Construction did the actual work, but they are still trying to get payment in full. CGA, the architects, got paid A LOT for this and they are totally unqualified to do a stadium. They also got the contract for the schools. Fun fact: CGA is owned by Sen Richard's son in law. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-37331730159578649952015-10-14T19:43:59.275-07:002015-10-14T19:43:59.275-07:00Shorter version of 7:39: Who already got paid?
L...Shorter version of 7:39: Who already got paid?<br /><br />Look for any up front winners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-31532806120157117052015-10-14T19:39:15.996-07:002015-10-14T19:39:15.996-07:00Don't you see???? It DOESN'T matter that t...Don't you see???? It DOESN'T matter that the team can't make a big enough profit now. The answer to the question is to FOLLOW THE MONEY. The profit has been made. Who actually made money on the scam? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-88244333316464778472015-10-14T16:55:43.703-07:002015-10-14T16:55:43.703-07:00I am not understanding the criticism of the use of...I am not understanding the criticism of the use of Tulsa, Springfield, and NW Arkansas distances and minor league teams. The study is correctly pointing out that these teams are live baseball competition for entertainment dollars for a Joplin based team. The study is not saying Joplin is comparable to those cities or that people in those cities will travel to Joplin for baseball. It is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-82640955049917799042015-10-14T05:30:19.095-07:002015-10-14T05:30:19.095-07:00When your top promotional event is Midget wrestlin...When your top promotional event is Midget wrestling you are going to struggle. <br />Also are they called the Blasters because of the speakers they have? I still cant hear out of one ear. Some simple improvements that dont cost any money could help. Good luck Blasters!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-53626802808943486882015-10-13T20:21:51.948-07:002015-10-13T20:21:51.948-07:00I did the math awhile back, and surprisingly, the ...I did the math awhile back, and surprisingly, the percentage of population to attendance isn't too far off between the regional minor league teams and Joplin. Now whether this can be sustained is another question, as these teams all see the numbers slide down over time unless the team gets really good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-25181595590186811272015-10-13T18:58:42.924-07:002015-10-13T18:58:42.924-07:00Wouldn't watch if they played in my backyardWouldn't watch if they played in my backyardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-61444179213330996022015-10-13T17:11:40.698-07:002015-10-13T17:11:40.698-07:00"There's an old saying in Joplin," h..."There's an old saying in Joplin," he began.<br /><br />A series of awkward pauses followed. "I know it's in Missouri, probably in Joplin that says, 'Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me... You can't get fooled again!'" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-32303990136939193742015-10-13T14:29:56.889-07:002015-10-13T14:29:56.889-07:00Adjust the next year's lease to the following;...Adjust the next year's lease to the following; $2 per ticket goes directly to the city until 75,000 pass through the gates. After 75K, $1 per attendee. The team may have 1,250 comps per season without having to pay the fee (25 comps per game). If the team wants to comp more tickets, they pay the usage fee. If a minimum of $100,000 is not met, the city has the right to evict after the current Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-17264194712850716582015-10-13T11:07:38.607-07:002015-10-13T11:07:38.607-07:00The city is once again in a lose lose situation vi...The city is once again in a lose lose situation via the Yellow Brick Road. The city has little choice now, and would be at least semi-wise, if possible, to go ahead and lower the lease amount and hope the team can make a go of it. If not, we have a 4.5 million dollar stadium sitting there being used for nothing. If the team owners then can still not come up with the payments, then let it go Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-38914202936104259632015-10-13T09:20:13.962-07:002015-10-13T09:20:13.962-07:00According to this video, someone is lying, either ...According to this video, someone is lying, either Rohr or the team owner, Oscar.<br /><br />http://joplinmo.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=&clip_id=170&meta_id=8556Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-82669531725566902882015-10-13T07:36:43.313-07:002015-10-13T07:36:43.313-07:006:36 AM- All of those cities have baseball teams o...6:36 AM- All of those cities have baseball teams of their own. Good catch. What a ridiculous piece of crap. I wonder if Rob told the group conducting the study what outcome he was hoping for? Why did they hire a company out of Michigan to do the study? No Missouri companies capable of doing it or maybe no Missouri companies were willing to skew the numbers to O'Brien's liking. What a hugeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-45872064425508146912015-10-13T07:28:06.495-07:002015-10-13T07:28:06.495-07:00In response to 6:36am.....Yes, and this was pointe...In response to 6:36am.....Yes, and this was pointed out to the City before the agreement was made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-7361756936506013622015-10-13T06:36:38.743-07:002015-10-13T06:36:38.743-07:00In the study one factor considered was Joplin'...In the study one factor considered was Joplin's distance to Springfield, NW Ark, and Tulsa teams (about 70 miles). The populations of the cities (using the US Census estimates for 2014) were roughly Springfield - 165,000, NW Arkansas - 502,000, Tulsa Metro 937,000, Joplin 51,000. Anyone else see a problem here? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-86330509688453979542015-10-13T06:18:05.385-07:002015-10-13T06:18:05.385-07:00There is blame all around. Rob O'Brien for a ...There is blame all around. Rob O'Brien for a flawed report, and creating the illusion that he brings great deals to Joplin. The city leaders because they were blind, and aren't smart enough to ask the questions we need. Our voters for electing some of these people, City employees for not doing a better job of due dilligence. and as 5:11 said, the owners have no idea how to run a teamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-67896999604404263462015-10-13T05:11:08.833-07:002015-10-13T05:11:08.833-07:00It isn't the cities job or the chambers to put...It isn't the cities job or the chambers to put butts in seats. It's the teams job to do that. Oscar, Shawn and Gabe have no idea how to run a team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-66689893856976861232015-10-12T23:53:31.337-07:002015-10-12T23:53:31.337-07:00>>Why, or why, are our city leaders always a...>>Why, or why, are our city leaders always asleep at the switch?<<<br /><br />Why do you think sleeping is the problem? <br /><br />Maybe creeping...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-39864623299829117202015-10-12T19:11:46.644-07:002015-10-12T19:11:46.644-07:00Let's move the chamber offices over to Joe Bec...Let's move the chamber offices over to Joe Becker and see if they like it as much then. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-74046710880196313712015-10-12T19:10:46.517-07:002015-10-12T19:10:46.517-07:00As I said on the earlier blog, this situation shou...As I said on the earlier blog, this situation should not come as a surprise. Several individuals, including some from individuals with experience with professional sports operations, told the City Council that the attendance estimates and the Chamber commissioned feasibility study were flawed and erroneously overstated. I am fairly certain that a open records request to the City on any Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-40981524024831624102015-10-12T18:51:21.345-07:002015-10-12T18:51:21.345-07:00Randy thanks for posting the link to the report th...Randy thanks for posting the link to the report the chambers Rob Obrian presented. This entire study deserves a second look. I believe it should be sent to the state auditors and possibly the Attorney General. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-69594537706376933822015-10-12T18:31:58.855-07:002015-10-12T18:31:58.855-07:00This study presented by Rob Obrian cost the city 5...This study presented by Rob Obrian cost the city 5 million dollars and received just $75,000 in revenue. Those are numbers that would get any private sector employee fired. Now Rob Obrian wants extra money to help attract new retail. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-41953897613106222792015-10-12T18:26:26.760-07:002015-10-12T18:26:26.760-07:00Rob Obrians return on investment is way into the n...Rob Obrians return on investment is way into the negative. He consistently tries to take credit for jobs that are created that he has absolutely nothing to do with. One of the best lines I heard on this blog. The chamber holds themselves out as beacons for free enterprise while taking $300,000 from taxpayers. I also hear they sell nearly a million dollars in memberships to businesses that are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-58491320787411589452015-10-12T17:15:08.968-07:002015-10-12T17:15:08.968-07:00Why, or why, are our city leaders always asleep at...Why, or why, are our city leaders always asleep at the switch?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985022.post-34114223872260894922015-10-12T16:35:32.350-07:002015-10-12T16:35:32.350-07:00Joplin just loves the smoke and mirrors Joplin just loves the smoke and mirrors Dusty Roadshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02352206097794510507noreply@blogger.com