A bond review hearing is scheduled for 8:30 a.m. February 18 for a homeless Joplin man who was charged with first-degree assault and armed criminal action following a stabbing Friday at Watered Gardens, 531 S. Kentucky Avenue.
From the probable cause statement:
While on routine patrol I was flagged down at 531 S. Kentucky Avenue, Joplin, Jasper County MO by Steven Martin who appeared to be bleeding from the chest after I observed him and Bryan Gutierrez verbally arguing.
Martin was walking toward Gutierrez before waving me in his direction. Gutierrez began walking away from the scene and continued to do so until he reached the east side of the parking lot. He eventually complied with officers after multiple commands.
I spoke to {two witnesses} both who arrived just as I did. They both observed Gutierrez backing away form Martin with a knife in his hand.
I spoke with Martin who stated he was standing outside Watered Gardens when Gutierrez walked up to him with two knives, both of which were slightly curved and had black sheaths. Gutierrez then stabbed with without saying anything.
According to the probable cause statement, the stabbing was captured on video footage collected from Watered Gardens.
Some people just can’t be helped, it ruins it for everyone, and then nobody is willing to help. All things we were taught when we were kids. Bad apples spoil the whole basket
ReplyDeleteThe Reagan Administration made things worse through the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which repealed President Carter's Mental Health Systems Act, depriving the community based health organizations of the funding they needed to support the deinstitutionalized. The Administration's actions caused trouble not so much by "shut[ting] down mental institutions and releas[ing] the mentally ill into the streets" -- but more by drying up the funds that were supposed to support the mentally ill who were being deinstitutionalized.
ReplyDeleteThe hospitals were run by the States, not by the Federal government-- so Administration action couldn't really "empty" institutions they didn't control. What they could and did do was fail to provide funding needed to make deinstitutionalization work. And, critically, the States didn't have the policy capacity --nor the political inclination- to design a system of community mental health services.
This was the issue that President Carter had worked on, and where a solution now existed, and in which President Reagan had no interest and consequently scrapped. Leadership matters, and the greatest failing of President Reagan in this regard is that having had the experience of running Sacramento, when he got to Washington -- what did he do? Punted the problem to States and localities that he knew or should have known didn't have the capacity to generate policy on their own.
So for all you people wondering why churches can't just go pick these people up off the street and take them in, here's your answer.
ReplyDeleteIt's like we are back in the 1850s with the chronically mentally ill.
ReplyDeleteShutting down the instutions over the past 60 years without funding and providing adequate outpatient treatment programs has essentially recreated the conditions immediately preceding the construction of psychiatric asylums in the mid-nineteenth century. After a 100-150 year hiatus, the mentally ill have rejoined the aged and physically disabled in nursing homes, alcohol and drug abusers in all sorts of public housing, and the unemployed and poor among the homeless.
The reliance upon Medicaid and SSI programs not specifically developed for the mentally ill but rather for a heterogeneous dependent population for the funding of psychiatric deinstitutionalization has contributed significantly to this state of affairs.
Wretched Gardens at it again. Let's have more facilities, let's bring in more. "What could happen except them getting fed"? Stabbings and numerous other crimes associated with "helping" the HOMELESS, that's what. Now there's a carpetbagger, with mental illness hair and eyebrows, who tells us that we need to turn our parks into campgrounds for these HOMELESS people. Imagine kids trying to use the park dodging used needles, piles of feces and molesters/abductors.
ReplyDeleteDo you also blame McDonalds when someone stabs or shoots another person at McDonalds? Certain groups of dangerous people in large cities tend to eat late at McDonalds...
DeleteWatered Gardens is one of the only legit facilities in this area, they don't take any money from the government, they run purely on donations and time from volunteers. They don't just give hand outs and say "problem solved!" The people that stay there have to WANT to improve their lives, they have to work for it.
Yes people do get dropped off here from other cities, and we have a disproportionate amount of homeless compared to other cities, but it's not because of Watered Gardens. Homeless people that refuse to change hate Watered Gardens. It's all the other facilities and groups that encourage the homeless to keep doing what they're doing, keep them coming to Joplin, giving handouts and a place to stay with no expectation or responsibility in exchange.
You're right about the eyebrow lady... that's the real problem. People like her want to make Joplin like Portland or Seattle when it comes to the homeless situation.
Some fool always has to make this political.
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DeleteHow can anyone complain about that there are politics involved with the homeless and mentally ill and at the same time claim that when they take the other side (do nothing, I don't care, let Jesus take the wheel) it isn't political 🤡 🤡
Well, whether we like it or not, this involves politics, all of these Homeless Shelters are Non-Profits that get money, donations, grants, tax breaks, aid, etc., because they legally qualify for it by being a Non-Profit, sanctioned because of the government. Should we ask John-Q-Public for more Tax Dollars to support more Jails, Mental Health Facilities, and Home-Less Non-Profits, or take away the Tax Statuses of those Mega Churches who the Ministers have Rolls Royce's, Several Mega-Mansions, Multiple Jet Airplanes, and Fly around the World - all Paid for by their Churches. (Just to name a few).
ReplyDeletePastors with Notable Mega Mansions
Kenneth Copeland (Texas): Believed to be the wealthiest, he lives in a roughly 18,000-square-foot lakefront mansion in Tarrant County, valued around \(\$7\) million to \(\$10\) million, which is tax-exempt as a parsonage.
Joel Osteen (Texas): Lives in a Houston home appraised at nearly \(\$12\) million, with reports suggesting a value over \(\$14\) million.
Creflo Dollar (Georgia): Owns a 20,000-square-foot home in Fayette County, Georgia, valued at approximately \(\$3\) million.
Jesse Duplantis (Louisiana): Owns a large, opulent home outside New Orleans.Steven Furtick (North Carolina): Built a large, 16,000-square-foot compound.
David E. Taylor (Multiple): In 2022, his church purchased an \(\$8.3\) million parsonage.Bishop I.V. Hilliard (Texas): Associated with a substantial, multi-home compound.
David Oyedepo (Nigeria): While international, he is noted for immense wealth, owning luxury properties and four private jets.
Common Themes Tax Exemptions: Many of these properties are classified as church-owned parsonages, allowing pastors to avoid paying property taxes.Prosperity Gospel: Many of these pastors teach that financial abundance is a sign of divine blessing, often encouraging donations to achieve it.High Value: These homes often range from 15,000 to over 20,000 square feet and are located in exclusive neighborhoods.