Sen Jack Goodman, as noted earlier in The Turner Report, has once again filed his bill which would require Missouri schools to have earlier starting dates. The bill is the subject of an article written by newly-minted metro editor Andy Ostmeyer in today's Joplin Globe. Though Goodman cites studies and mentions numerous reasons why this would be a good bill, it still appears the main reason is because the Branson tourism industry wants it.
Of course, that offers a good reason for Goodman to offer the bill. At least the interests that are wanting this bill are in his district. That same reason would not apply to Sen. Gary Nodler, R-Joplin, who announced support for this bill in the spring, right about the same time, he received thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Branson tourism interests.
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once again, big business = Gary Nodler. He is bought, pure and simple. By the way, I lived in the east for awhile and they had this later starting school year and it was horrible. Students were behind, and it didn't help anything. If the powers that be would really like to assist schools, lets get more classrooms, smaller class sizes and air conditioners.
The Senator supported Senator Goodman`s bill in the winter of 2006. His Branson fundraiser was held months later in the summer of 2006. When Randy says that they were "about the same time" it's simply a case of Turner telling a lie to try to create a false impression.
Why should Bransons wants and desires, which is a long list, have any effect on when children in the State of Missouri start to school. Their summer business is so down in Branson they want the legislature to bail them out. They always have! Its safe to say nearly all politicians receive money from Branson one way or another, we have the best politicians money can buy. Its time to tell the Branson begger to go somewhere else.
DRust
Hate to tell you, Anonymous, but the Senator (a taste of vomit just came into my mouth) and Senator Goodman have obviously talked alot (probably using the new invention called the telephone), so in the summer, I'm sure that Senator Goodman knew what he would be asking for in the Winter. Also, if you think this hasn't been an agenda item for BIG businesses in Branson before then you are still delusional. The difference is that the Big businesses didn't have anyone to buy for the support, but now they do! Nodler is only for big business and there is the proof, once again. I'm sure you will fire something back, but that is the glory of free press. The truth continues to come out.
You still don't get it. Senator Nodler supported Goodman's bill in the witner, before he had a Branson fundraiser in the summer, the point is the 2 events were a half a year apart, not at the same time as Rrandy said, your idiotic comments have nothing to do with truth and never have had. As for the taste in your mouth that is the taste of defeat.
No, you don't get it. Gary Nodler has lived off the taxpayer his entire life and he will be on "political welfare" for the rest of his life. His entire being is based on how he can enrich himself at the expense of the public.
No you don't get it. First you attack "Big Business" without knowing who that is, it is the shareholders, that's right, all teachers and union members who's retirment funds are invested in the market, all retired and disabled people recieving governemnt assistance that rely on corporate taxes, all news organizatins that use the AP, all farmers that ship on corporate carriers, all medical professionals that accept government compensation paid with corporate taxes, all state and local governments. Everyone in American makes up "Big Business", including you! As for you assertion that all public employees including Senator Nodler are living off the taxpayer and that none of them earn their pay, that is your oppinion, but it can never be laid on a single public employee, if you disrepect one you disrepect them all, but that seems to be your style disrepect for everyone including those elected by the people, You disrepect democracy itself.
I just contacted Senator Nodler to ask if he had ever lived off the taxpayer. He has never drawn unemployment benefits, or public assistance of any kind. he has never taken a student loan or grant or schollarship. He has never had public assistance for medical care or housing or of any other kind. In short he has never "lived off of the taxpayers". The only payments he has ever recieved were paychecks for work and tax refunds, It is also certain that "Anonymous" who suggests that our Senator lives off the taxpayer is someone who can't say the same thing but that person has lived off the taxpayer in one of those ways.
Senator Nodler (yuck, there's the vomit again) has lived off his paychecks and what else? Everyone knows he receives lots of perks from the "big businesses". This is known because he always votes in favor of whatever the businesses want. Shareholders, etc...blah blah blah, what a lot of babble. Glad you can call Nodler and talk to him, working folks that have tried haven't been able to get through, nor have they had messages returned. You two must be very close.
Randy it`s time for you to jump in. You are a public employee. In your opinion who is right? Are public employees like you living off the taxpayer or do teachers, firemen, police officers, elected and appointed public oficials, members of the armed forces and all other public employees earn their pay? I bet the Senator pays more taxes than his Anonymous critic, by the way that taste in his or her mouth is the venom he or she spews. The people of the 32nd district elected Senator Nodler, they chose him, it wasn't close. Every day from now on until the end of time it will always be true that Senator Nodler won and won big. It is that fact that this loser doesn't want to accept. The beauty is that this critic will wake up every day for the rest of their life knowing the Senator won big despite all the garbage that this person shoveled out. It didn't work....Get over it!
By the way Nodler was endorsed by most labor organizations, the working men and women support him strongly. His opponent was endorsed by no labor organizations. I know the truth hurts you Anonymous, that’s why you stay so far away from it!
I still believe that Kim would have done a better job for the people of the area. I understand that Gary won. I have not been posting anything for quite some time. The posts you see about him are not just from one person. May be hard for you to accept this as a truth, but it is. I didn't write the big business = Gary Nodler, I didn't write about the Branson stuff, or the whole vomit stuff. I think you have to understand that there are more people posting on this blog than your nemesis. I let it go after the last attacks by you. More than 1 person feels Gary isn't what he projects, and sorry - you (standing alone) aren't going to change my views or my vote. Sorry Gary-lover.
Randy, I think you could just have a blog for Nodler vs. everyone else in their right mind and there would be tons of people writing!
Don't know how many people are posting here. I do know how many people voted and who won, Gary in a landslide, so the point is that if most of the people who post here are against Nodler, most of the people who post here are a small disgruntled out of touch group and its just them against the vast majority who are with Nodler and always have been, they proved it election day and you will have to just face it. So the blog would be Nodler and everyone else against the small group of anti-Nodler bloggers. Again we don't have to guess we counted votes
A few clarifications:
Number one- My original articles on Nodler's Branson contributions noted that they came close to the same time that he told a group of area school counselors that he supported the earlier starting time. That is undisputed, and what difference does it make. Nodler supports the bill, Nodler rakes in the cash from Branson contributors.
And I am so tired of this back and forth business about Gary Nodler and Kim Wright. Nodler won, by a considerable amount. No one denies that. However, that votes does not equate to any kind of popularity for Nodler. He was an incumbent, with name recognition, and the competition was weak. I am sure there were many people who appreciate the job Nodler has done, but I am just as sure there are many who had to hold their noses as they cast their ballots for him. In 2002, when Nodler faced someone else with name recognition, former representative (and current lobbyist) Gary Burton, he barely won. His lopsided win over Kim Wright says more about the weak state of the area Democratic Party (even though she ran as an Independent) than it does about Gary Nodler's popularity. However, he was elected and will be our state senator until 2010. That doesn't mean the criticisms of him are not valid.
Nor does it mean that because a criticism apears on a blog that it is valid either, most often it is not. But the chidish name-calling and personal insults and tone reflect on the blog host not the person being attacked.
Randy your response is not honest. You said "announced support for this bill in the spring, right about the same time, he received thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Branson tourism interests." That is not true he announced his support in a hearing in Jefferson City in February in the middle of the winter and his Branson fundraiser was in the middle of the summer a half a year away. You are the one that attempted to associate these things together in time, you were wrong. Also as to Senator Nodler`s popularity, he has run as a candidate in the 3 counties that make up the 32nd district 4 times not 2. In two races for Congress against much better known and funded opponents, Mel Hancock and Roy Blunt Nodler recieved between 65 and 70% of the vote in the 32nd district. In his first race for the Senate, despite not having held puliic office or being in a race in more than 10 years he defeated 3 incumbent state legislators 2 of whom outspent him. The race against Kim Wright represents support that is statistically consistant at about 65 % in all 4 races against all kinds of opponents with all kinds of funding and all kinds of name-recognition. These are not oppinions but facts. Nodler is consistantly popular and consistantly has the support of 2/3`s of the people of the 32nd district its just the fact!
Well, if you wish to believe that Gary Nodler is popular, you have every right to do so. I will concede that you seem to be quite enamoured with him. As for his announcement of the support for the bill, if you say it was much earlier I have no reason not to believe you since you seem to be particularly close to Gary Nodler, but I sure have been unable to unearth any stories or news releases indicating his support. Please feel free to send me this information.
There are so many posting by Anonymous that it's difficult to keep folks straight. This is an Anonymous who has not chimed in on this issue so don't think it's from other posters.
My chime in says this, "Randy - you're wrong. Get over it and get on to something else. I strongly support an after Labor Day school opening and there are a dozen good reasons to do so. I think far too much of this centers on Branson...kids are going to be in school a set amount of dates. If you get extra days off in the fall, you lose them in spring. Air conditioning costs is a just one good reason for a later, and more traditional start. The cost of cooling buildings is a huge draw on a school's budget, and oppressive heat often goes until after Labor Day. Spring weather is much easier on the budget...."
As I said in the first blog. I have experienced that school schedule, starting after labor day, and it was not a good program. It was hard to fit in summer camp programs and it messed with the quarters. My vote, based on experience, would be no. We were glad, when we moved back, to be back on schedule.
Why don't we just keep the little tykes in school all year long. We could give them each two weeks yearly vacation and a week of sick days just like they will have when they grow up and make a career of flipping burgers at McDonalds.
Hey, forget trying to get Turner to ever change a story he gets wrong. He consistantly gets it wrong and changes nothing. When he finally realizes it, he simply takes a shot at the person who makes the post. He is a joke. That's why he has been fired from every job he has ever had.
Sounds like Gary is posting after all. Typical of him to do a personal attack when someone does not bow to his wishes. Only good thing we have going is that morbidly fat folks die off earlier than the rest of us.
My how this blog has brought forth a lot of stewing and fumed up people. Let me tell you this, and you can watch it happen. If Branson and Silver Dollar City want the school year dates changed, then they will be changed! Whatever they want, they won't let up until they get it. No one lobbies for the small business, nor the working person, only the big mouth wealthy. I only sign out as Anonymous because I can never get logged into this damn thing.
Drust
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